# The Embedding Revolution ### Anton on Chroma, Stable Attribution, and future of AI **March, 2, 2023** E5: The Embedding Revolution: Anton Troynikov on Chroma, Stable Attribution, and future of AI of "The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player Analysis in Listen Notes Podcast Database "The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player Analysis [E5: The Embedding Revolution: Anton Troynikov on Chroma, Stable Attribution, and future of AI](https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-cognitive/e5-the-embedding-revolution-htFzYeMdGo_/) Anton Troynikov, the founder of Chroma and Stable Attribution, discusses embeddings, the trade-offs and optimizations involved with working with embeddings at scale, the "Stable Attribution" project, and the big picture of recent AI developments. ## Timestamps - (0:00) Preview - (1:17) Sponsor - (4:00) Anton breaks down the advantages of vector databases - (4:45) How embeddings have created an AI-native way to represent data - (11:50) Anton identifies the watershed moment and step changes in AI - (12:55) Open AI’s pricing - (18:50) How chroma works - (33:04) Stable Attribution and systematic bias - (36:48) How latent diffusion models work - (51:26) How AI is like the early days of aviation - (56:01) How Disney inspired the release of Stable Attribution - (59:53) Why noise can lead to generalization - (1:01:04) Nathan’s KPI for The Cognitive Revolution - (1:01:59) Other use cases for embedding - (1:03:19) Anton touches on the applications for biotech - (1:04:35) Anton on doomerism hysteria and what actually worries him - (1:11:43) Nathan sums up a plausible doomer scenario - (1:20:17) What AI tools does Anton use and why? - (1:22:55) Anton’s hopes